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Anonymous:
Except I think there's a problem with pre-transition trans women or nonbinary/genderqueer males saying cis women are scum/need to die, especially when these people pass as men and benefit from male privilege while cis women will certainly be harrassed/be at risk from rape or abuse... like sex-based oppression exists too, so cis women are oppressed along one axis that trans women/nb people are not?

kakurenbonola:

bossibly:

Posting this as I believe this is a perspective that needs to be considered. 

@bossibly
I appreciate your comic showing that posts about transphobia don’t have to be taken as personal attacks on cis tumblrers all the time, and rather, we can reflect on how we experience cis privilege.

but I disagree with this anon. I’m not the best source on this subject, but as I’ve come to understand, anyone who is a trans woman has an intersectionality experience, and transphobia and misogyny cannot be considered independently (in addition to possibly other forms of oppression a trans woman may experience, such as racism and ableism). They frequently reinforce each other. The term intersectionality originated from black feminism, but has since had a wider range in use, including within black trans feminism.

Trans women experience very high rates of rape, abuse, and harrassment because of intersectionality - that is most certainly not just a cis woman’s experience. In many cases trans women are barred from rape crisis centres that otherwise serve all other women. Trans women are harassed on a regular basis. Femme dmab people also experience misogyny because femininity is frowned upon. I think “pre-transition” is besides the point because it has so many definitions. Trans women are abused regardless of whether they’ve had surgery or HRT, and while I’ve seen the opinion that “I’ve previously benefited from male privilege” vary among trans women, many trans women believe they never resonated with any “male socialization” because they are trans women. Besides, they are facing that abuse, harrassment, and rape right now. And the idea that they somehow don’t experience rape, abuse, and harrassment is a false assumption by someone who could benefit to learn more about the specific oppression faced by them.

I know that when I (a cis woman) am with a trans woman, we both get street harrassed when we’re together, but because of intersectionality people go a step further than they would with just me. Trans women are sexually assaulted more often than I ever have been because their bodies are scrutinized in an additional way. Cis onlookers will also make disgusted or shocked remarks (even simply looking at a trans woman and saying “What the fuck,” that’s the latest I’ve heard today), and ask invasive questions. Trans and cis women can both be asked invasive questions like “what is your cup size” but ignorant cis people will go a step further with trans women and ask something like “when did your breasts start budding” (to reference Janet Mock’s brilliant segment for Fusion TV).

It’s important to recognize that transmisogyny is its own breed of intersectional oppression, and the ask above comes from a biased perspective that is unaware of the particular struggles of trans women. A lot of people care about feminism but still don’t think trans women are worth caring about, and that’s a serious problem. 

Anonymous:
Except I think there's a problem with pre-transition trans women or nonbinary/genderqueer males saying cis women are scum/need to die, especially when these people pass as men and benefit from male privilege while cis women will certainly be harrassed/be at risk from rape or abuse... like sex-based oppression exists too, so cis women are oppressed along one axis that trans women/nb people are not?

Posting this as I believe this is a perspective that needs to be considered. 

In regards to the comic-

If anyone was curious about what the message of my comic was: it’s that cis people that see “cis-hate” on tumblr can simply just log out because they have the privilege to just ignore it and carry on.

Obviously that’s just my opinion though.

One thing I admit that I should have done was to make sure I was sarcastic about “cisphobia” existing.

Anyways I’m glad it fueled a lot of discussion.

EDIT: AND I made it on Reddit too! Where users are making the assumption that I excuse harassment towards peeps online (even though I didn’t even suggest that we should harass anyone), and are making the assumption that a post on tumblr that says any variation of “die cis scum” that is easily ignored by cis people online is the same as the type of harassment trans people face almost everywhere.

You can’t equivocate this because not everyone is on equal footing in society. 

I’d be happy to discuss with anyone via pm, (and on Reddit: /u/bossibly) if they like. Although I welcome anon messages, I don’t feel like cluttering this tumblr with responses from anons, unless they say something that re-evaluates my viewpoint. Please feel free to make an account and never use it for anything else if you want to discuss. 

sometimes i get a smoothie too.